Real vs Fake Ninjas

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  1. Missing Nin says: This one post that I had written more than three years earlier from now, when I had little knowledge of ninjutsu, is heavy on all your posts you have written up until now, which shows even at that moment I had more knowledge than what you have now; the now ‘me’ is a totally different person. Go on with whatever you like, it’s useless.

    • ninja says:

      I’m glad to have such a knowledgeable person with us, who completed his knowledge and learnt all possible stuff in 3 years 🙂

  2. Missing Nin says:

    This is probably my last comment here on this post and it will be a serious one. “Real vs Fake”- real means something in its actual or original while fake means something that is copied in some form to look like the original but it’s not. If you think you are a ninja or F.S Academy teaches real ninjutsu then bring us the proof -bring us the complete lineage of your masters and you can find ours upto Hatsumi Soké available at Sir Rif’at Abbas has studied directly under Manaka Unsui Sensei who is a direct student of Hatsumi Soké upto Sandan (3rd level) and is also affiliated with Bujinkan Tori whose Shihan Ndeljko Asanin has also studied directly under Hatsumi Soké and attends the annual seminars held by Honbu Dojo which means that he gets to see Hatsumi Soké every year at least once. If you think what I have said is wrong then go ask the real ninja grandmaster ‘Hatsumi Masaaki’ himself. I had a complete list of blackbelts who had studied under Hatsumi Masaaki Soké from 1975-2003 but dear Farhat Abbas Shah Sir’s name was no where listed in it, even in a massive list of Shodan (1st level) instructors while in Bujinkan, you are only allowed to open your own school after Godan (5th level) when you become a Shidoshi. Other than Hatsumi Masaaki Soké there was Fujita Seiko who died in 1966 and there’s Banke Shinobinoden’s Jinichi Kawakami but who appeared only after 1983. You don’t even present the proof if Sir F.A.Shah had studied under Ashida Kim, Donn F. Draeger or Ronald Duncan. If you still do not believe me and would like to debate on this, then get to an international forum such as or or You have the mind of a kid or a woman which negates all the positive things and pick that one negative one. If you say that our techniques are old and impractical to this ‘modern world’ then wait for an era to come and I certainly am not wishful to give my services to this army; it was just a way that I chose and now when I have failed on this path, I have found another way to the ultimate goal; “be water my friend”. By the above post, you only prove the in-authenticity of your own dojo; if I post the same in your group with minor changes, it will be serving my purpose. It is my view-point that Bujinkan and Ninjutsu are not ring sports and when I used the words to judge your academy, it was an optimistic approach to defeat you (this means the whole body of F.S Academy) in your claims through your own set of mind. Also I must say that your posts have a dominant factor of “I” and “me” on all your blogs which shows your likeness to yourself; it shows that you think or used to think that you know everything while all the others not; “Think light of yourself, think deep of the world”. You speak of evolution, that evolution stopped when ninjas come to an extinction and then the purpose came to preserve this art; that’s what we are doing today, otherwise just as you say we might have turned to AK’s and modern weapons but we are preserving it as a tradition and for a next generation because we know that there is going to come an era where it’s going to be useful again but academies like yours are a big obstacle to its preservation. Say if our art comes to total extinction and we transfer what your academy says is ninjutsu then it’s certainly not going to serve our purpose. And as you have stated: Survival
    Being powerful enough to manage enemy multiple times in strength
    and so on (sorry, it didn’t include “fighting in ring” as a sport”)
    does your academy art have these capabilities. If you say yes then sorry you have to take your time to prove it.
    And we should definitely check these for the best master we can find:
    His main art and skill and whom did he learn them from
    Tell me about Farhat Abbas Shah’s main art and skill and where did he learn from.
    What other skills he learnt, and from whom
    Did he practice with the master personally, or on DVDs
    Your grandmaster himself says that he learned martial art skills from books while my masters have learned directly from others and have proof in written form.
    His best students, did those students learn mainly from him only?
    If you have ever seen the videos of Hatsumi Masaaki Soké, Ndeljko Asanin Shihan and Rif’at Abbas Sensei then you will know, and they have also trained in several other martial arts upto blackbelt and you can not challenge their authenticity. I intend not to become a master untill and unless I have received direct teaching from an authentic master, otherwise I have enough knowledge and resources to open up my own school of ninjutsu and even bring a believable proof of lineage but since I lack practice and a permanent master and I have an oath to cling to honesty, I certainly do not intend to buy hell for a small gain.
    But before that, ask yourself, do you really know what you’re going for? Learning a set of techniques for ring sport? or Ninjutsu?
    This is the biggest wish I have that those students who fall victims to fake ninjers should do and you too must have asked yourself, Thankyou.

    • ninja says:

      I’ve tried to read your comment in chunks, it’s uselessly long, try to learn how to summarize and convey your message in minimum words 🙂

      Now coming to your weird content in this comment! Riffat who? Shihan who? This blog isn’t about any unknown entity or person bro, come out of your small shell please 🙂 We’re discussing ninjutsu here, not someone you like or prostate to.

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